Hebraic-Believer Position Paper: 

HOW YESHUA BECAME JESUS...

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IF YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT THIS, YOU ARE IN DECEPTION AND TEACHING/BELIEVING A LIE...!

(WORDS IN THE BLUE PART OF THE PICTURE IF YOU CAN’T READ THEM:
Yeshua; but don’t fall for the junk ‘scholarship’ that falsely says Jesus is Zeus!
Iota in Greek is the closest to the Hebrew Yud.
Greek names ending in “A” are female.
Greek names ending in “S” are male.
Jesus & Zeus only sound somewhat similar in English; in Greek they sound different, and are NOT the same word!
Messiah’s Hebrew Name is Yeshua. And while Jesus is only an English rendering of the Greek transliteration of the Hebrew, yet it is NOT a form of the Greek name for Zeus !
…& THOSE WHO SAY DIFFERENTLY CLING TO A LIE !!) 




[NOTE: In addition to the message in this photo]...
Truth is Truth. While His Name was/is Yeshua, not Jesus - yet Iesous is a correct Greek Transliteration of the Hebrew - and Jesus is the English form of that. - Jesus is NOT Zeus, and Believers are wrong for putting down people saying they are following a pagan god who say Jesus. Are there things that the Catholic church and later skewed into false teachings that are in discord with Scripture?...Yes: But that does NOT equate that those who don't know the fullness of the Hebraic-Judaic nature of Scripture do not have a relationship with YAH. - Remember: Shem, Enoch, Noah, Abram...all walked with YAH BEFORE there was even a "Judaic/Hebraic" nature of Tanakh. - Biblical-Judaism is as a beautiful garment given to us by our betrothed...but it is NOT something to be worshiped of itself ! - Some, it would seem, have fallen in love with the garment and forgotten their Lover !

Here are a five of several links that talk more about this subject...



http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=501948787543



http://www.sacrednamemovement.com/JesusZeus.htm


http://www.toolong.com/ZEUS.htm


http://www.torahtimes.org/legacy_site/page_reviews/jesusnotzeus.html



http://askdrbrown.org/ask-dr-brown/35-ask-dr-brown/79-what-is-the-original-hebrew-name-for-jesus-and-is-it-true-that-the-name-jesus-greek-isssous-is-really-a-pagan-corruption-of-the-name-zeus 



[INTRO COMMENTS FROM ANOTHER POST: While Yeshua is Messiah's Hebrew Name; yet: Jesus is NOT at all the Greek word Zeus ! - They are two totally different names in Greek, and only sound somewhat similar in English. While the Catholic church did introduce some pagan practices, and they got rid of some Biblical-Judaic practices, in the 4th century AD; yet: Saying Jesus in Greek is Zeus is a demonic lie that actually keeps people from wanting to hear more about the Biblical-Judaic roots of Messianic/Hebraic Belief ! Virtually 100% of all Messianics/Hebraic-Believers started out as Christians, and they found out about Yeshua's Hebrew Name and Biblical-Judaism BECAUSE they had a relationship with Jesus Christ, and they were able to hear from Him lovingly telling them the Truth ! – But trying to drive people to the Truth with a lie is a deception and sin ! - Again: Jesus is NOT Zeus ! ]

[LATER SUMMARY ON THIS SUBJECT:
STOP & THINK PEOPLE ! ...When you say Jesus is zeus/pagan (which is a FALSE teaching: See photo with attached text below), what you are doing is insulting Believers who use the Name Jesus, which is also Who (Jesus) 99.9% of all Messianics FIRST came to know Messiah Yeshua as. Will you now curse the Name of your Beloved, Who you first knew when you gave your life to YHVH Elohim, Jesus...Because later He showed you what His Name is in Hebrew? ! - You might as well call someone's wife a whore, as that would be far less offensive, than teaching/repeating to Believers this FALSE teaching that Jesus is zeus/pagan ! - And yet we're called all manner of names for strongly standing against this heretical teaching. - Let me say again: Yes, Messiah's Name is Yeshua; but NO: Jesus is NOT zeus/pagan ! ]


ANOTHER RELATED POST:

The Messiah's Hebrew Name: "Yeshua" Or "Yahshua"?

by Dr. Daniel Botkin

Dr. Daniel Botkin explains the Hebrew linguistics of the names "Yeshua" and "Yahshua" and how "Yahshua" is a mistransliteration by Sacred Name advocates to fit an erroneous interpretation of John 5:43 and how "Yeshua" is far more accurate. He also clearly establishes the fact that the English name "Jesus" has absolutely no pagan connection and is simply a derivation of "Yesous," the Greek transliteration of "Yeshua." Most important, Dr. Botkin addresses that slander and criticism surrounding the name controversy in entirely non-Scriptural and not glorifying to the Holy One of Israel.

The Messiah’s Hebrew name is usually transliterated as either Yeshua or Yahshua. Under normal circumstances I would not bother to write an article about something as trivial as the difference between the vowel sounds "e" and "ah." There is a need to address the subject, though, because some people who use the Yahshua form say untrue things about those who use the Yeshua form. The opponents of the Yeshua form claim that this pronunciation is the result of a Jewish conspiracy to hide the Savior’s true name. Those who call the Messiah Yeshua are accused of perpetuating a Jewish conspiracy and "denying His name" or "degrading Him" by their use of the Yeshua form. If you have never read or heard these outlandish accusations, you probably will eventually. From time to time I receive personal letters to this effect.

The proponents of the Yahshua form claim that the Messiah’s name was the same as Joshua’s, written [vwhy or [wvwhy (Strong’s #3091). The only problem is that neither of these Hebrew spellings of Joshua’s name can possibly be pronounced "Yahshua." The third letter in Joshua’s name (reading from right to left) is the letter vav (w) and a vav cannot be silent. The letter vav must be pronounced as either a "v" or an "o" or an "u." (In the case of Joshua, it takes an "o" sound, giving us "Ye-ho-SHU-a." Strong’s confirms this pronunciation.) For a name to be pronounced "Yahshua," it would have to be spelled [wv--hy, and no such name exists anywhere in the Hebrew Bible. You don’t have to just take my word for it, though. Dr. Danny Ben-Gigi says of the Yahshua form that "there is no such name in Hebrew" and that "people invented it to fit their theology."[1] Dr. Ben-Gigi is an Israeli and the former head of Hebrew programs at Arizona State University. He is the author of the book First Steps in Hebrew Prayers, and he designed and produced the "Living Israeli Hebrew" language-learning course. Dr. David Bivin, a Christian, says that the Yahshua form "is rooted in a misunderstanding."[2] Dr. Bivin is a renowned Hebrew scholar and teacher and author of Fluent Biblical Hebrew.

I do not know of a single individual that knows Hebrew well enough to actually read it and understand it and converse in it who uses the Yahshua form.

Please do not misunderstand. A person does not need to know Hebrew and Greek linguistics in order to be spiritual. However, if a person is going to take it upon himself to instruct others about subjects of a linguistic and Hebraic nature, he should know the Hebrew language and he should know some basics about linguistics. This is especially true if he is going to use his Hebrew-based linguistic teachings to accuse his brethren of being part of a "Jewish conspiracy" to "deny the true name of the Messiah."

To people who actually know Hebrew – people like Dr. Ben-Gigi, Dr. Bivin, and others – it is very obvious that those who insist on the Yahshua form know very little about the Hebrew language. The only Hebrew that most of these self-appointed scholars know is what they can learn from a Strong’s Concordance.[3] Strong’s is a great study tool and a fine place to start, but it is not a means by which a person can learn the Hebrew language.

The English form Jesus is derived from the New Testament Greek name Ihsouß, pronounced "Yesous." According to Strong’s, Yesous (Strong’s #2424) is "of Hebrew origin" and can be traced back to Joshua’s Hebrew name, Yehoshua (#3091, [wvwhy). But how do we get the Greek Yesous from the Hebrew Yehoshua? Someone armed with nothing more than a Strong’s Concordance may have difficulty answering that question. Someone who reads the Bible in Hebrew, though, knows that the name Joshua sometimes appears in its shortened form, Yeshua ([wvy) in Neh. 8:17 it is apparent even in English: "Jeshua the son of Nun." (The letter J was pronounced like a Y in Old English.) Strong does not tell the reader that the Greek Yesous is actually transliterated from this shortened Hebrew form, Yeshua, and not directly from the longer form Yehoshua. The process from "Yehoshua" to "Jesus" looks like this:

Hebrew Yehoshua à Hebrew Yeshua

Hebrew Yeshua à Greek Yesous

Greek Yesous à English Jesus

There is no "sh" sound in Greek, which accounts for the middle "s" sound in Yesous. The "s" at the end of the Greek name is a grammatical necessity, to make the word declinable.

In Neh. 8:17, Joshua’s name is 100% identical to the name which today’s Messianic Jews use for the Messiah, Yeshua ([wvy). Strong’s confirms this pronunciation, and tells us that there were ten Israelites in the Bible who bore this name (#3442). Therefore the shortening of Yehoshua to Yeshua predates the Christian era by at least 500 years, and cannot be the result of a Jewish conspiracy to hide the Savior’s true name.[4] To claim that the shortened form Yeshua is the result of a Jewish conspiracy is to ignore the facts of history and the facts of the Hebrew Scriptures. The form Yeshua existed for several hundred years before the Messiah was even born. Even in the pre-Christian Septuagint, we see the Greek form IHSOUS (Yesous) in the title of the Book of Joshua. (This is also proof that Yesous has no connection to the pagan god Zeus.)

So where did the transliteration Yahshua come from? This form of the name can be traced back to the beginnings of the Sacred Name movement, a movement that grew out of the Church of God, 7th Day, in the late 1930s. I have in my files an article entitled, "A Brief History of the Name Movement in America" by L.D. Snow, a Sacred Name believer.[5] According to this article, "John Briggs and Paul Penn were the FIRST to pronounce and use the name Yahshua" (emphasis Snow’s). This was in 1936 and in 1937, the article states. No information is given about how Briggs and Penn came up with this (mis)translation.

Later Sacred Name literature appeals to the Messiah’s statement in John 5:43 as "proof" of the Yahshua form: "I am come in My Father’s name," He said. In the minds of Sacred Name believers, this means that "Yah," a shortened form of Yahweh, must appear in the name of the Son. However, the Messiah did not say "My name contains My Father’s name" or "My Father’s name must appear inside My name" or any such statement. He said absolutely nothing here about His own name. The only "name" mentioned here was the Father’s name. He said, "I am come in My Father’s name," which simply means that He was coming by His Father’s authority, on His Father’s behalf. If we take Yeshua’s statement "I am come in My Father’s name" to mean that His own name must contain the Father’s name, then we ourselves cannot do anything "in the Father’s name" unless our own personal name happens to contain the syllable "Yah." The folly of this interpretation is also evident if the same line of reasoning is applied to the rest of Yeshua’s statement: "…if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." If the logic of Sacred Name believers is applied to this half of the verse, it would be saying "a person’s name must contain his own name," which is meaningless. If, on the other hand, "in his own name" means "by his own authority," then the statement makes sense.

Why is the Yahshua form used by no one but Sacred Name believers and people who have been influenced by Sacred Name believers? Probably because no such name exists in the Hebrew Bible and, to my knowledge, no such name exists in any extra-Biblical Hebrew literature. It appears that Dr. Ben-Gigi is correct when he says that people invented the name Yahshua to fit their theology.

I have read a lot of literature from writers who seek to expose the "errors" of those who refer to the Messiah as Yeshua. The only thing these writers actually expose is their lack of knowledge. I could give several examples of statements which are absolutely ridiculous. I do not have the space in this publication to give all the examples I have in my files, and I do not wish to embarrass sincere people for their honest but misguided efforts. There are some examples, though, that grossly misrepresent the facts, and some of these examples need to be exposed.

In one popular booklet published by a well-known Sacred Name organization, the anonymous author makes this statement: "Most reference works agree with Kittel’s Theological Dictionary of the NT statement on page 284, which states that the name Yahoshua was shortened after the exile to the short form Yahshua." This statement makes it sound like Kittel uses the forms Yahoshua and Yahshua. I went to the library and looked at this page in Kittel’s. The words Yahoshua and Yahshua do not appear even one time on this page. This can be verified by going to a library and looking up this page. (It’s in Volume III.) If your library does not have Kittel’s, I can send a photocopy of this page to any skeptics.

This same Sacred Name organization which misrepresents Kittel’s also misrepresented a Jewish author. In a magazine article written by this organization’s main leader, a lengthy segment is quoted from a book published by KTAV, a Jewish publishing house. When copying this quotation for his magazine article, this Sacred Name author freely used Yahshua, making it appear tat the Jewish author used that transliteration in his book. I got the book from the library, though, and discovered that "Yahshua" did not appear in the book. I wrote to this Sacred Name leader asking for an explanation. I told him that unless he had some other explanation, I could conclude one of three things: either he deliberately misrepresented the facts, or he did it accidentally, or the book I got from the library was a different version from his, in which case I would owe him an apology. My letter was sent September 1, 1997, and I am still waiting for a reply. I will not embarrass this man by mentioning his name or the name of his ministry. It is not my intention to embarrass anyone.

I am not writing this article to persuade people to quit saying "Yahshua." If people want to continue using a mistransliteration that was erroneously contrived by early Sacred Name pioneers who didn’t know Hebrew, it really doesn’t matter to me. I don’t that the substitution of an "ah" sound for an "e" sound matters much to the Lord, either. What does matter, though, is the spreading of false accusations against Messianic Jews and others who called the Messiah "Yeshua."

Paul warned Timothy about "doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmising [suspicions]" (1 Tim. 6:4). Unfortunately, this is an accurate description of what goes on among many people in the Sacred Name movement. Personally, I would rather fellowship with non-contentious people who call the Messiah "Jesus" than with contentious people who insist that everyone call Him "Yahshua."

NOTES

[1] Love Song to the Messiah newsletter, March 1999, p. 1.

[2] "The Fallacy of Sacred Name Bibles," Jerusalem Perspective Nov.-Dec. 1991, p. 12.

[3] These teachers very heavily rely on Strong’s Concordance, yet when Strong proves them wrong, as he does with the pronunciation of Yehoshua, they insist that Strong’s rendering is erroneous! I have a Sacred Name publication which actually claims that Strong wrote down incorrect pronunciations because "his understanding of the Name was lacking." Anyone who wants to disprove this ludicrous assertion can simply look at Joshua’s name in a Hebrew Bible and see that Strong used the very same vowel marks that are used in the Bible.

[4] There is some debate over whether or not the Jews’ final shortening of Jesus’ name to Yeshu (wvy) was a deliberate attempt to avoid acknowledging Yeshua of Nazareth as Savior.

[5] This article first appeared in a publication called The Eliyah Messenger in May-June 1966, and was reprinted in 1975 in World Today Analyzed, a publication of the Assembly of Yahvah in Tahlequah, OK. 

URL/Link FOR THE ABOVE ARTICLE: http://www.yashanet.com/library/yeshua_or_yahshua.htm 



NOTE: See the following photo/note with video-link on discovery of Yeshua's Name found in ancient Israel - 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=527475647279950&set=a.185477824813069.48143.100000525582384&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash4%2F487270_527475647279950_989645798_n.jpg&size=495%2C246

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ALSO: Click here to see a note/study on the Name YHVH - Hebraic-Believer Position Paper: THE-NAME/HaSHEM -(The LORD)- YHVH. -  https://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&note_id=10150095837958627




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    Mezuzah:
    And Yeshua answered him, The first of all the commandments is, ¶ Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God YHVH is One: And thou shalt love YHVH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. - And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. (Deut. 6:4-5 & Mark 12:29-31)